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-====== Victron Energy and BLOOM AES Rackmount Batteries ======+====== Victron Energy and Discover AES Rackmount Batteries ======
  
-**UNDER CONSTRUCTION - PLEASE VISIT LATER** 
  
-<insert imageAES Rackmount - 001.png>+{{:battery_compatibility:aes-rackmount-001.png?direct&600|}}
  
  
-The BLOOM Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are compatible with Victron products in various systems.+The Discover Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are compatible with Victron products in various systems.
  
-These instructions are intended to be used in conjunction with the product manuals supplied by BLOOM Power.  +These instructions are intended to be used in conjunction with the product manuals supplied by Discover Energy Systems.   
 + 
 +For the latest product details, installation, and operation manuals, visit the Discover website [[https://discoverenergysys.com/support/resources]] 
  
-For the latest product details, installation, and operation manuals, visit the BLOOM Power website [[https://bloompower.com/support/resources]]  
  
 ===== 1. Introduction ===== ===== 1. Introduction =====
-The BLOOM LiFePO4 battery includes a Battery Management System (BMS) that interfaces with the Victron GX device and can support multiple batteries connected in parallel.+The Discover LiFePO<sub>4</sub> battery includes a Battery Management System (BMS) that interfaces with the Victron GX device and can support multiple batteries connected in parallel.
  
-These instructions provide information about integrating BLOOM Lithium batteries with Victron Energy devices in a closed-loop configuration using the LYNK II Communication Gateway set to communicate with Victron devices. The AES RACKMOUNT batteries can be used in an Energy Storage System (ESS) for self-consumption, Grid backup, and Off-grid applications.+These instructions provide information about integrating Discover Lithium batteries with Victron Energy devices in a closed-loop configuration using the LYNK II Communication Gateway set to communicate with Victron devices. The AES RACKMOUNT batteries can be used in an Energy Storage System (ESS) for self-consumption, Grid backup, and Off-grid applications.
  
 Configuration, installation, service, and operating tasks should only be performed by qualified personnel in consultation with local authorities having jurisdiction and authorized dealers. Qualified personnel should have training, knowledge, and experience in: Configuration, installation, service, and operating tasks should only be performed by qualified personnel in consultation with local authorities having jurisdiction and authorized dealers. Qualified personnel should have training, knowledge, and experience in:
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   * Installing and configuring systems activated by relays   * Installing and configuring systems activated by relays
  
-**//No responsibility is assumed by BLOOM for any consequences arising from using this material.+**//No responsibility is assumed by Discover for any consequences arising from using this material.
 Read the AES RACKMOUNT Installation and Operation Manual and safety instructions before installing the battery. Read the AES RACKMOUNT Installation and Operation Manual and safety instructions before installing the battery.
 Read Victron manuals for guidance on product features, functions, and parameters and for using the product safely.//** Read Victron manuals for guidance on product features, functions, and parameters and for using the product safely.//**
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 **Failure to follow these instructions can result in death or serious injury.** **Failure to follow these instructions can result in death or serious injury.**
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 **CAUTION: ELECTRIC SHOCK HAZARD** **CAUTION: ELECTRIC SHOCK HAZARD**
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 The LYNK II Communication Gateway is compatible with the following: The LYNK II Communication Gateway is compatible with the following:
  
-**BLOOM Power Batteries**+**Discover Power Batteries**
  
   * AES RACKMOUNT 48-48-5120 / 48-48-5120-H   * AES RACKMOUNT 48-48-5120 / 48-48-5120-H
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-**BLOOM Power Reference Documents:**+**Discover Power Reference Documents:**
   * 808-0039 48-48-5120 AES RACKMOUNT Data Sheet   * 808-0039 48-48-5120 AES RACKMOUNT Data Sheet
   * 808-0040 48-48-5120-H AES RACKMOUNT (Heated) Data Sheet   * 808-0040 48-48-5120-H AES RACKMOUNT (Heated) Data Sheet
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 ==== 3.1 System Overview ==== ==== 3.1 System Overview ====
  
-The LYNK II Communication Gateway unlocks the full potential of a BLOOM Lithium battery by enabling the internal Battery Management System (BMS) to provide real-time data in a closed-loop configuration to other devices. This configuration allows hybrid inverter-chargers and solar charge controller systems to optimize control over the charging process in solar applications. LYNK II also enables the remote monitoring of BLOOM Lithium battery SOC and data logging of multiple sites using the data monitoring services offered by off-grid inverter systems.+ 
 +{{:battery_compatibility:aes-systemoverview.png?direct&600|}} 
 + 
 + 
 +The LYNK II Communication Gateway unlocks the full potential of a Discover Lithium battery by enabling the internal Battery Management System (BMS) to provide real-time data in a closed-loop configuration to other devices. This configuration allows hybrid inverter-chargers and solar charge controller systems to optimize control over the charging process in solar applications. LYNK II also enables the remote monitoring of Discover Lithium battery SOC and data logging of multiple sites using the data monitoring services offered by off-grid inverter systems.
 Discover Lithium batteries must be set up to work with power conversion and monitoring devices in either an open-loop or closed-loop configuration. Discover Lithium batteries must be set up to work with power conversion and monitoring devices in either an open-loop or closed-loop configuration.
  
 In an open-loop configuration, charge and discharge settings are set up manually through the controller for the power conversion device at the time of installation. In an open-loop configuration, charge and discharge settings are set up manually through the controller for the power conversion device at the time of installation.
  
-In a closed-loop configuration, the BLOOM Lithium battery's BMS sends the battery status over a network data connection with the power conversion device. Power conversion devices use the BLOOM Lithium battery BMS data to fine-tune the output of their charger and deliver other functional controls based on battery voltage, temperature, and percent State-of-Charge.+In a closed-loop configuration, the Discover Lithium battery's BMS sends the battery status over a network data connection with the power conversion device. Power conversion devices use the Discover Lithium battery BMS data to fine-tune the output of their charger and deliver other functional controls based on battery voltage, temperature, and percent State-of-Charge.
  
 If communication between the BMS and Victron inverter-charger is interrupted, the Victron inverter-charger stops charging until communication is re-established. If communication between the BMS and Victron inverter-charger is interrupted, the Victron inverter-charger stops charging until communication is re-established.
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 ==== 3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity ==== ==== 3.2 Minimum Battery Capacity ====
  
-Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the BLOOM Lithium battery and Victron Energy device. Using large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Either curtail the charging below the operational limit of installed batteries, or the battery capacity must accept the maximum charge current of the system. This value is derived by adding the charge capacities of all inverter-chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must support the surge requirements of the load attached to the inverter. Match all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.+Battery charge and discharge rates are managed automatically by the Discover Lithium battery and Victron Energy device. Using large solar arrays with battery banks that are too small can exceed the operating limits of the battery to charge and possibly lead to the BMS triggering over-current protection. Either curtail the charging below the operational limit of installed batteries, or the battery capacity must accept the maximum charge current of the system. This value is derived by adding the charge capacities of all inverter-chargers and solar charge controllers in the system. Additionally, battery peak capacity must support the surge requirements of the load attached to the inverter. Match all inverter peak power values with the sum of all battery peak battery current values.
  
-^ 120 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/48-48-5120-H ^+^ 120 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/ 48-48-5120-H ^
 ^ Quattro 48/3000/35 <sup>1</sup> | 133 Adc | 54 Adc | 35 Adc | 1 | ^ Quattro 48/3000/35 <sup>1</sup> | 133 Adc | 54 Adc | 35 Adc | 1 |
 ^ Quattro 48/5000/70 <sup>2</sup> | 220 Adc | 88 Adc | 70 Adc | 1 <sup>3</sup> | ^ Quattro 48/5000/70 <sup>2</sup> | 220 Adc | 88 Adc | 70 Adc | 1 <sup>3</sup> |
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-^ 230 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/48-48-5120-H ^+^ 230 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/ 48-48-5120-H ^
 ^ Quattro 48/5000/70 <sup>1</sup> | 220 Adc | 88 Adc | 70 Adc | 1 <sup>*2</sup>| ^ Quattro 48/5000/70 <sup>1</sup> | 220 Adc | 88 Adc | 70 Adc | 1 <sup>*2</sup>|
 ^ Quattro 48/8000/110 <sup>3</sup>| 347 Adc | 139 Adc| 110 Adc | 2 | ^ Quattro 48/8000/110 <sup>3</sup>| 347 Adc | 139 Adc| 110 Adc | 2 |
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-^ 277 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/48-48-5120-H ^+^ 277 V Models ^ Inverter Peak ^ Max Continuous Discharge ^ Max Continuous Charge ^ AES RACKMOUNT Min 48-48-5120/ 48-48-5120-H ^
 ^ Quattro 48/15000/200 <sup>1</sup>| 542 Adc | 260 Adc | 200 Adc | 3 | ^ Quattro 48/15000/200 <sup>1</sup>| 542 Adc | 260 Adc | 200 Adc | 3 |
  
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-===== 4 Configuring BLOOM Products =====+ 
 +===== 4 Configuring Discover Products =====
  
 ==== 4.1 Configuring the LYNK II ==== ==== 4.1 Configuring the LYNK II ====
  
  
-**Setting Up Jumpers**+**LYNK II: Setting Up Jumpers**
  
 Jumpers configure termination for the LYNK Network and the CAN Out pin assignments. Follow the instructions in the LYNK II Installation and Operation Manual (805-0033) for accessing and configuring the header board with jumpers. Jumpers configure termination for the LYNK Network and the CAN Out pin assignments. Follow the instructions in the LYNK II Installation and Operation Manual (805-0033) for accessing and configuring the header board with jumpers.
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 Adjust the jumpers on the header board to assign CAN signals (CAN H, CAN L, CAN GND) to the pins of the RJ45 connector. Adjust the jumpers on the header board to assign CAN signals (CAN H, CAN L, CAN GND) to the pins of the RJ45 connector.
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 +
 +{{:battery_compatibility:lynkii-jumpers-002.png?direct&600|}}
 +
  
 ^ CAN Out RJ45 Pin ^ Header Jumper ^ RJ45 Pin ^ ^ CAN Out RJ45 Pin ^ Header Jumper ^ RJ45 Pin ^
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 ^ CAN H | H1 - 7-9 | 7 | ^ CAN H | H1 - 7-9 | 7 |
 ^ CAN GND | H3 - 1-3 | 3 | ^ CAN GND | H3 - 1-3 | 3 |
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-<insert image: LYNKII-jumpers-002.png> 
  
  
 **LYNK ACCESS Software** **LYNK ACCESS Software**
  
-LYNK ACCESS software for 64-bit Windows 10 / 11 is required to configure the LYNK II settings for closed-loop CAN communication with Victron Energy devices. 
  
 +{{:battery_compatibility:lynkaccess.png?direct&400|}}
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 +
 +LYNK ACCESS software for 64-bit Windows 10 / 11 is required to configure the LYNK II settings for closed-loop CAN communication with Victron Energy devices.
   - Download the current version of LYNK ACCESS software from the Discover Energy Systems website to get the most up-to-date suite of available protocol configurations.   - Download the current version of LYNK ACCESS software from the Discover Energy Systems website to get the most up-to-date suite of available protocol configurations.
-  - Using a USB cable with a Type-B mini-plug, connect the 64-bit Windows 10/11 device with the LYNK ACCESS software to the USB port on the LYNK II communication gateway. Ensure the LYNK II is powered and connected to the correct Victron COM port (VE.Can).+  - Using a USB cable with a Type-B mini-plug, connect the 64-bit Windows 10/11 device with the LYNK ACCESS software to the USB port on the LYNK II communication gateway. Ensure the LYNK II is powered and connected to the correct Victron COM port (VE.Can).  {{:battery_compatibility:lynkii-laptop.png?direct&600|}} 
   - Open LYNK ACCESS and confirm that only one LYNK device is connected to the computer.   - Open LYNK ACCESS and confirm that only one LYNK device is connected to the computer.
   - Select the LYNK tab for optional configuration and settings. Select the blue gear icon in the upper right area of the CAN Settings tile.   - Select the LYNK tab for optional configuration and settings. Select the blue gear icon in the upper right area of the CAN Settings tile.
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 **NOTE:** In most cases, the communication speed for the Victron protocol should be 250 kbps to match the networked Victron devices. However, if communication cannot be established at that speed, the Victron device may require a communication speed of 500 kbps. **NOTE:** In most cases, the communication speed for the Victron protocol should be 250 kbps to match the networked Victron devices. However, if communication cannot be established at that speed, the Victron device may require a communication speed of 500 kbps.
 +
  
 ==== 4.2 Connecting LYNK II to the VE.CAN Network ==== ==== 4.2 Connecting LYNK II to the VE.CAN Network ====
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   * Proper system function requires network termination – some batteries and devices may auto-terminate.   * Proper system function requires network termination – some batteries and devices may auto-terminate.
   * LYNK II requires power from one of three possible sources (13-90 VDC power supply, a USB device, or AEbus Port or LYNK Port enabled Discover Lithium battery).   * LYNK II requires power from one of three possible sources (13-90 VDC power supply, a USB device, or AEbus Port or LYNK Port enabled Discover Lithium battery).
-  * BLOOM Lithium batteries must be set to ON to supply power and communicate with LYNK II. +  * Discover Lithium batteries must be set to ON to supply power and communicate with LYNK II.
- +
-<insert image AES Rackmount - line drawing - 003.png>+
  
 +{{:battery_compatibility:aes-ackmount-line-drawing-003.png?direct&400|}}
  
 LYNK II and AES RACKMOUNT battery modules are both internally terminated. No external termination is required when installing LYNK II with AES RACKMOUNT battery modules. LYNK II and AES RACKMOUNT battery modules are both internally terminated. No external termination is required when installing LYNK II with AES RACKMOUNT battery modules.
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 Insert one end of a CAT5e or higher communication cable into the LYNK II CAN out port and the other end into one of the two VE.Can ports (A-B) on the back of the Victron device. As the LYNK II is internally terminated, the external terminator provided with the GX is not required. Insert one end of a CAT5e or higher communication cable into the LYNK II CAN out port and the other end into one of the two VE.Can ports (A-B) on the back of the Victron device. As the LYNK II is internally terminated, the external terminator provided with the GX is not required.
  
-<insert image Victron GX device - 004.png>+{{:battery_compatibility:victron-gx-device-004.png?direct&600|}}
  
   - VE.Bus: RJ45 socket for connecting to the Victron inverter.   - VE.Bus: RJ45 socket for connecting to the Victron inverter.
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 ===== 5 Configuring Victron Products ===== ===== 5 Configuring Victron Products =====
  
-When the LYNK II is in a closed-loop network using the CANopen protocol, LYNK II will transmit real-time parameters from the BLOOM Lithium battery, including voltage, current, temperature, state of charge, and fault conditions, to a Victron Energy device. LYNK II also transmits charge voltage and current requests from the Discover Lithium battery to the Victron device.+When the LYNK II is in a closed-loop network using the CANopen protocol, LYNK II will transmit real-time parameters from the Discover Lithium battery, including voltage, current, temperature, state of charge, and fault conditions, to a Victron Energy device. LYNK II also transmits charge voltage and current requests from the Discover Lithium battery to the Victron device.
  
 If there is a break in communication between the Victron Energy device and the LYNK II, the Victron device stops charging. Charging only resumes after communication between the Victron device and the LYNK II communication gateway is restored. If communication cannot be restored, you may have to set the system to open loop until an installation professional is available. If there is a break in communication between the Victron Energy device and the LYNK II, the Victron device stops charging. Charging only resumes after communication between the Victron device and the LYNK II communication gateway is restored. If communication cannot be restored, you may have to set the system to open loop until an installation professional is available.
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 In such cases, you may have to set the system to open loop until the issue is resolved. The following describes how to set up open-loop on Victron devices. In such cases, you may have to set the system to open loop until the issue is resolved. The following describes how to set up open-loop on Victron devices.
  
 +{{:battery_compatibility:victron-configure3-005.png?direct&600|}}
  
 You will need the latest firmware on all connected devices. The following presumes familiarity with VE Configure software. After setting the voltage-based open-loop parameters using the VE Configure 3 software, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter-charger and GX device and then restart the GX device. You will need the latest firmware on all connected devices. The following presumes familiarity with VE Configure software. After setting the voltage-based open-loop parameters using the VE Configure 3 software, ‘send’ all parameters to the inverter-charger and GX device and then restart the GX device.
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 **Procedure** **Procedure**
  
-  - Set the Discover Lithium batteries to ON and set the inverter to ON.+  - Set the Discover Lithium batteries to ON and the inverter to ON.
   - Connect your computer to the Victron GX device or inverter.   - Connect your computer to the Victron GX device or inverter.
   - On the computer, start the VE Configure 3 software configuration tool.   - On the computer, start the VE Configure 3 software configuration tool.
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   - Toggle the On/Off/Charger Only switch to turn the inverter OFF and ON.   - Toggle the On/Off/Charger Only switch to turn the inverter OFF and ON.
  
-VE Configure 3 > General Tab 
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-^ General Tab ^ 48-48-5120 / 48-48-5120-H ^ 
-^ [AC1] Overruled by remote <sup>1</sup> | Enable | 
-^ [AC2] Overruled by remote <sup>1</sup> | Enable | 
-^ Dynamic current limiter | Enable | 
-^ External current sensor connected | Disable | 
-^ Enable battery monitor | Enable | 
-^ State of charge when Bulk finished <sup>2</sup> | 95% | 
-^ Battery capacity | Number of batteries x 100 Ah| 
-^ Charge efficiency <sup>2</sup> | 1.00 |  
-<sup>1</sup> Enable is recommended. 
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-<sup>2</sup> Precautionary setting ignored during regular operation and communicating with BLOOM lithium batteries.  
  
  
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 ^ Battery capacity | Number of batteries x 100 Ah| ^ Battery capacity | Number of batteries x 100 Ah|
 ^ Charge efficiency <sup>2</sup> | 1.00 |  ^ Charge efficiency <sup>2</sup> | 1.00 | 
 +<sup>1</sup> Enable is recommended.
  
-<sup>1</sup> Enable is recommended.+<sup>2</sup> Precautionary setting ignored during regular operation and communicating with Discover lithium batteries
  
-<sup>2</sup> Precautionary setting ignored during normal operation and communicating with BLOOM lithium batteries.  
  
  
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 <sup>4</sup> ‘Enable AES’ has no relation to the AES RACKMOUNT battery. Refer to Victron manuals for information on the AES setting and function. <sup>4</sup> ‘Enable AES’ has no relation to the AES RACKMOUNT battery. Refer to Victron manuals for information on the AES setting and function.
 +
  
  
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   * Select **VE.Can & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s)**   * Select **VE.Can & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s)**
-(Select Victron solar inverters may operate with CAN-bus BMS 500 kbit/s)+ (Select Victron solar inverters may operate with CAN-bus BMS 500 kbit/s) 
 + 
 +{{:battery_compatibility:victron-closed-loop001.png?direct&400|}}
  
-<insert image Victron-Closed-Loop001.png>+  * Return to the Device List, and the Discover Lithium Battery should now appear as one of the devices.
  
-3. Return to the Device List and the Discover Lithium Battery should now appear as one of the devices. 
  
 **Device List** **Device List**
  
-<insert image Victron-Closed-Loop002.png> 
  
 +{{:battery_compatibility:victron-closed-loop002.png?direct&400|}}
  
-**NOTE:** If Discover does not appear on the Device List, confirm that the CAT5e or higher communication cable is a normal patch type, not a cross-over type. Use manufactured cables to avoid bad crimps and reduce the risk of a poor connection.+ 
 +**NOTE:** If **Discover AES** does not appear on the Device List, confirm that the CAT5e or higher communication cable is a normal patch type, not a cross-over type. Use manufactured cables to avoid bad crimps and reduce the risk of a poor connection.
  
  
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 **Device List > Settings > DVCC** **Device List > Settings > DVCC**
  
-<insert image Victron-Closed-Loop004.png> +{{:battery_compatibility:victron-closed-loop004.png?direct&400|}} 
-<insert image Victron-Closed-Loop005.png>+{{:battery_compatibility:victron-closed-loop005.png?direct&400|}}
  
 ^ DVCC Menu ^ Setting ^ ^ DVCC Menu ^ Setting ^
 ^ DVCC (Distributed Voltage and Current Control | Forced on | ^ DVCC (Distributed Voltage and Current Control | Forced on |
 ^ Limit charge current | ON <sup>1</sup> | ^ Limit charge current | ON <sup>1</sup> |
-^ Maximum charge current <sup>1</sup> | Installed number of Discover Lithium batteries x their rated Maximum Charge current or a lower value if system curtailment is required. |+^ Maximum charge current <sup>1</sup> | Installed number of Discover batteries x rated Max Charge current|
 ^ Limit managed battery charge voltage | Disabled | ^ Limit managed battery charge voltage | Disabled |
 ^ SVS - Shared voltage sense | Forced off <sup>2</sup> | ^ SVS - Shared voltage sense | Forced off <sup>2</sup> |
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 After the DVCC menu items have been set, reboot the system to complete the closed-loop configuration. After the DVCC menu items have been set, reboot the system to complete the closed-loop configuration.
  
-<insert image Victron-Closed-Loop006.png>+{{:battery_compatibility:victron-closed-loop006.png?direct&400|}}
  
 **NOTE:** To avoid conflicting network information and data, do not use a Victron BMV battery monitor when using the LYNK II Communication Gateway. **NOTE:** To avoid conflicting network information and data, do not use a Victron BMV battery monitor when using the LYNK II Communication Gateway.
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 ===== 6.0 Powering Up Equipment ===== ===== 6.0 Powering Up Equipment =====
  
-  * Make sure none of the BLOOM communication cables are attached.  +  * Make sure none of the Discover communication cables are attached.  
-  * Connect MultiPlus/Quattro, GX device, MPPT etc to the batteries safely in accordance with the local electrical requirements/code.+  * Safely connect MultiPlus/Quattro, GX device, MPPT, and so on to the batteries in accordance with the local electrical requirements/code.
   * Connect all Victron communication cables at this time.   * Connect all Victron communication cables at this time.
   * Turn ON the AES RACKMOUNT battery.   * Turn ON the AES RACKMOUNT battery.
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   * GX device (Cerbo GX, Venus GX, etc) to include version 2.40 or later.   * GX device (Cerbo GX, Venus GX, etc) to include version 2.40 or later.
   * VE.Direct MPPT - version 1.42 or later.   * VE.Direct MPPT - version 1.42 or later.
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