4. Connecting Victron products
4.1. VE.Bus Multis/Quattros/Inverters
In order to keep this document short we are going to refer to all Multis, Quattros and Inverters as VE.Bus products.
The earliest version of VE.Bus devices that can be connected using the CCGX is 19xx111, where the first 2 digits represent the microprocessor and the last 3 digits represent the VE.Bus firmware version.
VE.Bus device microprocessor | GX device support |
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18xxxxxx | No |
19xx111 | Yes |
20xx111 | Yes |
26xxxxx | Yes |
27xxxxx | Yes |
Note that for Multis, Quattros and EasySolars, it is not possible to use the Remote On/Off (header on the VE.Bus control PCB) in combination with a CCGX. There should be a wire between the left and middle terminal, as it is when shipped from the factory. In case a wired switch that disables the system is required, use the Safety Switch Assistant instead.
This limitation does not apply to the next generation of VE.Bus inverter/chargers: when using a MultiPlus-II, Quattro-II or EasySolar-II, the Remote on/off terminal header *can* be used in combination with Color Control GX.
Caution
Before connecting any VE.Bus product, be very careful not to confuse the GX device VE.Bus ports with the Ethernet or VE.Can/BMS-Can port!
Single VE.Bus products
To connect a single VE.Bus product, connect it to one of the VE.Bus sockets on the back of the CCGX. Both sockets are identical, use either one. Use a standard RJ45 UTP cable, see our pricelist.
Parallel, split- and three-phase VE.Bus systems
To connect multiple VE.Bus products, configured as a parallel, split-phase or three-phase VE.Bus system, connect either the first or the last VE.Bus product in the chain to either one of the VE.Bus sockets on the back of the CCGX. Use a standard RJ45 UTP cable, see our pricelist.
Systems consisting of five or more VE.Bus products, connected to a CCGX with serial number HQ1628 or earlier require the CCGX dongle for large VE.Bus systems (Product Number: BPP900300100).
VE.Bus systems with Lithium batteries and a VE.Bus BMS
The following only applies to the VE.Bus BMS v1, not to be confused with its successor VE.Bus BMS V2.
Connect the CCGX to the socket labelled ‘MultiPlus/Quattro’, or to one of the Multis/Quattros in the system. Do not connect it to the Remote panel socket on the VE.Bus BMS.
Note that it will not be possible to control the On/Off/Charger Only switch. This option is automatically disabled in the CCGX menu when a VE.Bus BMS is used. The only way to control a Multi or Quattro when used with a VE.Bus BMS is to add a Digital Multi Control to the system. Setting the input current limit is possible in systems with a VE.Bus BMS.
Combining MultiPlus/Quattro with a VE.Bus BMS and a Digital Multi Control is possible. Simply connect the Digital Multi Control to the RJ-45 socket on the VE.Bus BMS labelled Remote panel.
To allow auto-power-down in the CCGX in case of a low battery, make sure the CCGX is powered via the VE.Bus BMS: connect Power in V+ on the CCGX to Load disconnect on the VE.Bus BMS. And connect both negative leads to the negative stub of a common Battery.
Combining the CCGX with a Digital Multi Control
It is possible to connect both a CCGX and a Digital Multi Control to a VE.Bus system. The ability to switch the product On, Off or set it to Charger Only via the CCGX will be disabled. The same applies to the input current limit: when there is a Digital Multi Control in the system, the input current limit which is set at that control panel will be the master-setting, and changing it on the CCGX will not be possible.
Connecting multiple VE.Bus systems to a single CCGX
Only one VE.Bus system can be connected to the VE.Bus ports on the back of the CCGX. The professional way to to monitor more systems is to add a second CCGX
If you do require to connect more than one system to the same CCGX, use an MK3-USB. Functionality will be limited:
Only the system connected to the built-in VE.Bus ports is used to generate the data on the Overview pages.
All connected systems will be visible on the Device List.
All connected systems will be taken into account for Energy consumption and distribution calculations (kWh graphs on VRM).
Only the system connected to the built-in VE.Bus ports is used for the Generator start/stop logic.
Only the Multi/Quattro (which can be a single device, or multiple together configured for three-/split-phase as well as parallel) connected to the VE.Bus port will be controlled via DVCC. Additional systems, connected to the GX device using an MK3-USB, are not controlled by DVCC and will charge and discharge according to the configuration made in those units.
The CCGX will not send proper data to VRM any more. The Venus GX does send information of both systems to VRM: its therefor better to use a Venus GX for systems like this.
In case of an ESS system, only the system connected to the built-in VE.Bus ports is used in the ESS mechanisms. The other one is displayed in the Device List only.
Alternatively the VE.Bus to VE.Can interface (ASS030520105) can be used. Add one for each additional system. Note that we advise against it; this interface is a deprecated product. Make sure that the VE.Can network is terminated and powered. For powering the VE.Can network, see Q17 in our data communication whitepaper.
Additional features provided by a GX device to VE.Bus products
An internet connected GX device allows for remote configuration via the VRM Portal. Please read the Remote VE.Configure manual for more information, system requirements and specific steps to access this feature.
The internet connected GX device also allows remotely updating the firmware of VE.Bus products. For details see the Remote VE.Bus firmware updates manual.
4.2. AC load monitoring
All energy meter types can be assigned the AC meter role. This is done in Settings → Energy meters → [your_energy_meter] → Role menu where you choose between Grid, PV Inverter, Generator and AC meter. With AC meter selected, the load will be shown in the Device list and on VRM in the advanced widgets.
Note
Please note that such metered loads are not used in any calculations, just monitoring.
4.3. Battery monitors, MPPTs and Smart IP43 Chargers with a VE.Direct port
Direct connection via a VE.Direct cable is limited to the number of VE.Direct ports on the device (see Overview of Connections). There are two types of VE.Direct cables available:
Straight VE.Direct cables, ASS030530xxx
VE.Direct cables with an angled connector on one end. These are designed to minimise the required depth behind a panel, ASS030531xxx
VE.Direct cables have a maximum length of 10 metres. It is not possible to extend them. If longer lengths are required, use a VE.Direct to USB interface with an active USB extension cable.
It is also possible to use the VE.Direct to VE.Can interface, but note that this only works for BMV-700 and BMV-702. Not for the BMV-712, MPPT solar chargers and Inverters with a VE.Direct port. See next paragraph for more information on that VE.Can interface.
Connecting more VE.Direct devices to your Color Control GX than number of VE.Direct Ports
First of all, note that the maximum of VE.Direct devices that can be connected is GX device specific, and constrained by the CPU power. It may also be reduced for very complex systems, such as many AC PV inverters or synchronised inverter chargers, etc. So always allow some additional headroom in the design. How they are connected, whether via VE.Direct, via USB or USB hub, does not change this maximum. See the Victron GX product range for the maximum limit on all GX devices.
For the CCGX, this limit is 5.
Options to connect more VE.Direct products than available VE.Direct ports:
Use the VE.Direct to USB interface. The CCGX has built-in USB ports. Use a USB hub when additional USB ports are required.
(Only!) the BMV-700 and BMV-702 can also be connected using the VE.Direct to VE.Can interface (deprecated). Note that the BMV-712, MPPTs and VE.Direct Inverters cannot be connected using this CAN-bus interface as it does not translate their data into CAN-bus messages. When using the VE.Direct to VE.Can interface, make sure that the VE.Can network is terminated, and also powered. For powering the VE.Can network, see Q17 in our data communication whitepaper. Lastly, note that this CAN-bus interface is deprecated.
Notes about older VE.Direct MPPTs
An MPPT 70/15 needs to be from year/week 1308 or later. Earlier 70/15s are not compatible with the CCGX , and unfortunately upgrading the MPPT firmware will not help. To find the year/week number of your model, look for the serial number which is printed on a label on its back. For example number HQ1309DER4F means 2013, week 09.
4.3.1. DC load monitor mode
If you wish to use a SmartShunt or BMV-712 to monitor individual DC circuits, rather than as a whole-of-system battery monitor, you can change the Monitor mode setting from Battery Monitor to DC Energy Meter in VictronConnect.
If DC meter is selected, you can then select the following types (also in VictronConnect):
Solar charger, Wind charger, Shaft generator, Alternator, Fuel cell, Water generator, DC-DC charger, AC charger, Generic source, Generic load, Electric drive, Fridge, Water pump, Bilge pump, DC system, Inverter, Water heater
Once connected to the Color Control GX, the type and the amps and power of the DC load is shown in the user interfaces and available on the VRM Portal.
When configured as type “DC System”, the CCGX does more than just recording and visualisation:
The power shown in the DC system box is the sum of power reported by all SmartShunts configured as such. Allowing multiple meters is done to accommodate for example a catamaran, so you can measure the DC Systems on Port hull and on Starboard hull.
The DC system current is being compensated for when setting DVCC charge current limits to Multis, Quattros and Solar Chargers. For example when a load of 50A is being measured, and CCL by the battery is 25A, the limit given to the Multis & Solar Chargers is 75A. An improvement for systems with significant DC loads such as Yachts, Coaches and RVs.
Notes and limitations:
This feature is available for SmartShunts and BMV-712. Not for BMV-700 or BMV-702.
Setting the meter mode is done with VictronConnect, in the BMV/SmartShunt itself. For details see the BMV-712 or SmartShunt product manual on the Battery Monitor product page.
The NMEA2000-out feature does not support these new types, for example when using a SmartShunt to measure output of an alternator, that data is not made available on NMEA 2000.
4.4. VE.Can Devices
To connect a product with a VE.Can port, use a standard RJ45 UTP cable (available with straight and elbow connectors).
Don't forget to terminate the VE.Can network at both ends using a VE.Can terminator. A bag with two terminators is supplied with each VE.Can product. They are also available separately.
Other notes:
In order to work with the CCGX, an MPPT 150/70 must be running firmware v2.00 or newer.
You can combine a Skylla-i control panel with a CCGX.
You can combine a Ion Control panel with a CCGX.
All VE.Can devices power the VE.Can network, so it won't be necessary to power the VE.Can network separately in these circumstances. All the protocol converters, for example the VE.Bus to VE.Can interface and the BMV to VE.Can interface, do not power the VE.Can network.
The following VE.Can products also support VictronConnect-Remote (VC-R) – Configuration and monitoring via VRM. Please read the VictronConnect manual for further details.
VE.Can product | VC-R | Remarks |
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Lynx Shunt VE.Can | Yes | - |
Lynx Smart BMS | Yes | - |
Inverter RS, Multi RS and MPPT RS | Yes | They also have VE.Direct but must be connected via VE.Can for VC-R |
Blue/Smart Solar VE.Can MPPTs [1] | Yes | Tr and MC4 models |
Skylla-i and Skylla-IP44/-IP65 | Yes | Requires firmware v1.11 |
[1] All VE.Can solar chargers except the very old (big rectangular case with display) BlueSolar MPPT VE.Can 150/70 and 150/85 |
4.5. VE.Can Interfaces
The Color Control GX has one VE.Can interface that is electrically isolated.
VE.Can is intended to be used for Victron (and Victron compatible) VE.Can products, such as the VE.Can MPPTs, Skylla-IP65, Lynx Shunt VE.Can and Lynx Smart BMS. You can string these VE.Can 250 kbit/s devices together along this bus. It must be terminated at both ends with the included VE.Can terminators.
You can set the VE.Can port from 250 kbit/s to 500 kbit/s (or one of several other CANbus speeds or profiles for other CANbus applications) in the Remote Console Device List → Settings → Services → VE.Can Port 1/2 → CAN-bus Profile.
By default; VE.Can is set to 250 kbit/s & BMS-Can (if present) to 500 kbit/s.
Other types of Batteries and BMS may claim compatibility with BMS-Can or VE.Can, but if they are not on the battery compatibility list, then they have not been tested and confirmed to work by Victron.
One extra element of possible confusion is that there are some BMS products on the market that use a CANbus-BMS profile at 250 kbit/s. These BMS products can only be connected to the VE.Can port, and it must also be set to match this (VE.Can & CAN-bus BMS (250 kbit/s)) in the services menu for the VE.Can port. They can be used in the same cable daisy chain as other Victron VE.Can devices.
4.6. Inverter RS, Multi RS and MPPT RS
The Inverter RS, Inverter RS Solar and Multi RS have both VE.Direct and VE.Can interfaces. For these specific products, it is only possible to connect a GX device via the VE.Can interface. It is not possible to connect a GX device via the VE.Direct interface.
The VE.Direct interface on these specific products is only used for connection of a VE.Direct to USB adapter for programming.
This restriction does not apply to the MPPT RS, which can be connected to a GX device via either VE.Direct or VE.Can.
4.7. BMV-600 series
Connect the BMV-600 using the VE.Direct to BMV-60xS cable. (ASS0305322xx).
4.8. DC Link Box
Connect the DC Link Box with the supplied RJ12 cable. Then connect the BMV-700 to the CCGX.
4.9. VE.Can Resistive Tank Sender Adapter
See the VE.Can resistive tank sender adapter product page for details about the adapter.
To connect a product with a VE.Can port, use a standard RJ45 UTP cable
Don't forget to terminate the VE.Can network on both ends using a VE.Can terminator. A bag with two terminators is supplied with each VE.Can product. They are also available separately (ASS030700000). (Available with straight or elbow connectors).
Make sure that the CAN-bus is powered, see the Power chapter in the Tank Sender Adapter manual for details.
4.10. Connecting a GX Tank 140
The GX Tank 140 is an accessory for our range of GX system monitoring products.
It takes readings from up to four tank level sensors.
Tank levels can be read-out locally in the system, as well remotely through our VRM Portal.
The GX Tank 140 is compatible with current senders (4 to 20mA) as well as voltage senders (0 to 10V). The connection to the GX device is via USB, which is also how the GX Tank is powered: no additional power wires required.
To make wiring the tank sender as simple as possible, two of the four inputs provide a 24V power supply, to power the sender. Using the other two channels requires an external power supply, and there is a power in terminal together with fused outputs to facilitate that.
Upper and lower limits are configurable, to allow using senders that provide only part of the scale, for example 0 to 5V.
For marine applications, the GX device can transmit these tank levels on the NMEA 2000 network to be picked up by other displays such as an MFD.
The GX Tank 140 product page links to the complete documentation of this product.
4.11. Victron Energy Meter VM-3P75CT
The Victron VM-3P75CT energy meter is a standard device to measure the power and energy of single- and three-phase applications, for example, at the distribution box or to measure the output of a PV Inverter, AC Genset or the output of an inverter and inverter/charger. The energy meter calculates each phase's power values and broadcasts this over VE.Can or Ethernet with a high rate.
It has built-in Ethernet and VE.Can ports for the connection to a GX device and the split-core current transformers enable easy and quick installation without modifying existing wiring. Its data is displayed on a GX device such as the Cerbo GX or Ekrano GX , as well as in VictronConnect and our VRM Portal.
Set up and configure the VM-3P75CT as described in the energy meter manual. When doing so, ensure the energy meter is connected to the same local network as the GX device.
The following steps are not required if the energy meter connects to the GX device via VE.Can; this is plug-and-play. If the energy meter is connected via Ethernet, it must be activated after the initial installation:
In the GX device menu, go to Settings → Modbus TCP/UDP devices → Discovered devices and enable the discovered energy meter; it's disabled by default when first installed and powered. | |
The VM-3P75CT then becomes visible in the Device List and can be monitored from there. For more details, see the energy meter manual. |
4.12. EV Charging Station
The EV Charging Station and EV Charging Station NS with its three-phase and single-phase charging capabilities integrates seamlessly into the Victron environment with its GX device connection via WiFi and enables easy operation and control via Bluetooth and the VictronConnect App.
Set up and configure the EVCS as described in the EV Charging Station manual. When doing so, ensure that firstly, GX device communication is enabled and secondly, the EV charging station is connected to the same local network as the GX device.
Next, Modbus TCP and the detected device must be activated on the GX device:
In the GX device menu, go to Settings → Services → Modbus TCP and enable Modbus TCP. | |
Next, go to Settings → Modbus TCP/UDP devices → Discovered devices to enable the discovered EVCS. Note that EV Charging Stations that were connected to the GX device prior to a GX device firmware update to 3.12 will be activated automatically. Newly added devices, however, must be activated manually via this menu. | |
The EVCS then becomes visible in the Device List and can be controlled and monitored from there. For more details, see the EVCS manual. |